This is me reminding myself to come back to this later. It is hitting a ping on my radar about fights I used to have on the Forge and early Story Games, and things I thought were behind a lot of folks reactions to push-pull discussions, and how the differences around the assumptions about the fundamental core activity of play. Like, it isn’t all about zero-sum, but your framing of it here makes me think that is a good place to approach it from.